MRCS IN PAKISTAN . KING KONG RATS

[BADAMI SINGHis KIng]

i m pleased to inform you that pakistan accredit mrcs now and has exumpted fcps1 and 2 yrs training .


good luck to all

[Dr. Adeel Anwar]

I dont know whats the point of recognising MRCS now, because as u people know MRCS has been phased out and there are no reasons to spend so much money on it, particularly for Pakistani surgical trainees. On the basis of current IMRCS, which is different from England trainees. We could not get any position in Higher surgical training programs there in England/Ireland or Europe. While Canada, Australia asked for paid work expirence in these countries no just the diploma!
Now MRCS is just for Middle east countries, for crazy arabs, where MRCS counts equivalent to FCPS!. However we know that there is no comparision between the two, MRCS you can do just by reading and sitting at home while for FCPS you need to go through 4 or 5 extensive years of surgical training with dissertation, Itermediate Module & workshops.
One more thing i want to ask CPSP authorities whether they took this decision on mutual basis (DO Royal Colleges of Surgeons UK recognise MCPS OR FCPS equivalent to MRCS OR FRCS? )or just to attract candidates in less worth Pakistani system, who already have wasted a lot of time and money in getting MRCS!

[ARSLANbhatti]

HI

i have read and agree to the adeel but it still worth alot as MRCS is phasing out but still the trainees who are doing simple residecies in pakistan or middle east and have surgical experience has time till 2010 to get into fellowship training by exumpting stupid exams like fcps1 and Intermediate modules which has noback ground and no sense.

what ever the case may be it is still blessing in disguise for those who are working in surgery.

as far as FCPS is concerned it still has no standing around the world except few 3rd world countries , no body knows even about the meaning of FCPS . might sm people in afghanisatn know what it stand for .

as compare indian MS system is much better and properly planned .

so i say to get mrcs and to get fcps1 exumption is really a BLessing .

good luk

[razzaq]

mr.arslan you better keep your views up till yourself .


have you done MRCS ? if not go for it . before that you loose your chance to attempt it .


have a nice day .

[mohsin ahassan]

AOA!


i am final yr mbbs student in pakistan wants to know what is fcps ?


do reply . iam really wooried what it stands for ?




:roll:

[Dr. Adeel Anwar]

Amazing you dont know the meaning of FCPS? are you studying in Burma or Mauritania? Because even Indian knew its meanning. Only two countries as far as i knew offering this fellowship, College of Physicians & Surgeon Pakistan and other one is Bangladesh.
FCPS very well accepted in Saudiarab, Oman, in few UAE states and even on basis of FCPS you can get training period exemptions in Canada, Australia, Ireland and UK.
And by the way happiness from exemption from FCPS-1, IMM, two year training again will lead you to this marvellous FCPS! not FRCS or DABS?
you can apply for fellowships in singapore as well as in USA but research experience needed.

[Dr. Adeel Anwar]

Why FCPS is less worthable as compare to MD or MS from India, reason behind this is misunderstanding, what is FCPS and what is MS.
FCPS is a diploma like FRCS issued from a College, either CPSP or RCS Edinburg or Canada or Australia.
MD or MS are Master degrees issued by Universities, either Indian or Pakistani. You must be aware of MS and MD programs offered by Univ of Karachi, Liaquat University of Health Sciences or University of Punjab
Whole Arab world give priority to MS/MD degrees when they are comparing them to FCPS, but this is there double standards FCPS should be compare only with FRCS or Diplomate American Board.
In Pakistan MD/MS are not worthable as compare to FCPS since 1967 after the creation of CPSP, adequate monitoring, good training standards and taking regular exams.
In the end it is rightly said" value of diploma or degree issued by any country exactly a true reflection of country's economy''

[aminayaqoob]

i dont know which part of the world adeel is sleeping ,

man get up its a ever changing world . Forget FCPS

no body knows it its a diploma created by few stooges of pakistan having links in the government .the basic aim is to kik back the upcoming medical students .

how can be a diploma is considered higher than the Degree.

Arabs are not he stupids .it is we who are . who think diploma higher than the degree .

as far as i remember CPSP is a group of few old vultures who have no brains and are forcing the up coming students to not get in to the higher posts of the medical colleges .


world knows and treat them rightly .

[ehtasahm jutt]

you people told me if FCPS has so much worth why the professors send their children to the STATES to do steps or Uk to do MRCS ?

i am really amazed

[Dr. Adeel Anwar]

Let me introduce my self, I have done MBBS in 2001 from Karachi and completed my MCPS in Gr. Surgery followed by FCPS in Urology. I have passed MRCS(Glasgow). After getting Canadian Immigration now i am preparing for MCCEE & MCCQE1 papers. At present I am working in MOH, Oman as a Specialist Urology.
Now come to your question, no body is sleeping here, every body has a right to share his or her experience and present his opinion.
I never said diploma is higher then degree, i talked about the wrong comparision, which usually Arabs and few Pakistanis like you made, you can compare one brand of motorcycle with other brand motorcycle, not with a car, similarly MS/MD (ind)should be compared with MS/MD(Pak) not with FCPS or FRCS. Training standards, exposure, workshops, assesment all are different. Yes believe me FRCS is also a diploma but every one know its worth is far above then so called Indain MS or MD.I hope now you can understand.
I never said FCPS is better then Diplomate USA or FRCS, unfortunately i saw our FCPS trainees inspite of facing all hardships and even more difficult exams to pass treated as less worthable then USA/UK/AUS. This all because of our country is not spending so much on health system, education and particularly on improving the training standards as in UK govt bodies like NHS or in USA medical education comission already did.
Other important thing is that donot run blindly for the degrees and diplomas because now you can realise ENGLAND has closed there doors for foreign grads.
USMLE/AMC--> is a better option for fresh graduates this is my opinion.